Clover is a flash based content management system designed for dummies. Their target demographic is primarily churches and ministries, although they are now targeting businesses. It doesn’t get much easier than Clover but that comes at a price both from a technical and financial standpoint. Flash, like many things in life is not inherently bad, but how it’s implemented can be. To say Clover’s claim that you “Get a $20,000 website for 1/20th the price.” is hyperbole is an understatement.
I began using Virb back in 2006 when it was a social networking site populated mostly by photographers, musicians, and those like myself who simply loved the beautiful interface. It never really took off the way many had speculated and then in a bold move they relaunched their site with a new vision and a new direction. Their new goal was to provide an “elegantly simple way to build a website”.
Clover seems to have some accessibility issues both for search engines and humans but the latter is the most serious. Although clover has done a decent job of making it accessible to search engines, it’s not perfect. The more serious issue, however, is accessibility to humans with disabilities. They do not give the option to view a non-flash based site unless you are using a mobile device or you have javascript disabled. You cannot navigate the flash-based site with the keyboard such as using the tab key. It is not possible to scroll their content boxes without using the scroll bar.
Clover & Virb both had the same goal of providing an interface so simple that anyone could build a site. They both succeeded in this, but Clover’s greatest strength is also their greatest weakness. Their system is so simple that it provides almost no flexibility such as being able to add a picture or video into page. Virb was able to build an application as simple as Clover but far more flexible and powerful.
It takes 7-9 steps in Clover to create a page and begin adding content:
The screenshot below shows steps 2-5 but this process highlights one of the weakness of flash when it’s not properly implemented. After typing the page name you cannot just hit the Tab-key to move to the next option and instead you must take a hand off the keyboard and move to the next option with the mouse.

Although these steps are easy and anyone can figure it out, Virb makes it even faster and much easier. It’s a 2 step process in Virb and you’re already adding content to your page. When you’re done, simply save the page and drag it where you want it to appear within the navigation. After selecting the blue ‘Create a new Page’ button you see in the background, you’ll see menu that asks you to select the type of page you want to create.

After selecting the page type, it automatically takes you to the page to begin editing. In the picture below you can see they use an editor that allows you to add style to your page such as making text bold, creating lists, changing font-size, add section headings, and last but certainly not least you can add picture right into the page like I’ve also done in this post.

But another very powerful feature is the edit button just below the title text-box. I enlarged it so you can see it better, but it lets you choose a custom URL for the page. For example, if this is your ‘About Us’ page you can name it ‘about’ which would let you access the page by typing in http://yoursite.com/about This is powerful when it comes to making your site accessible to visitors and search engines.
I don’t even know where to start in comparing Virb to Clover in this area because they are so vastly different. Clover is very limited in how you can add media to their sites. You can’t just add pictures to a page like you see in this post. Instead the templates have predefine image placeholders in which you can change the picture. The video player in their demo is very outdated and does not embed directly into the page, instead it has to be launched into a separate pop-up window. The same is true of audio and it’s not the easiest method to figure out. They claim their demo’s are exactly what you would get if you purchased the site and based off that standard their sites are far from being user friendly when it comes to media management and distribution
With Virb it’s as easy as selecting the picture, video or audio you want to upload and you’re done. You can create photo galleries, video galleries, and even audio collections with virtually no work involved. If you look at the picture below you simply have to click the blue box that says, “Photo or Video” and it instantly brings up a box where you can navigate to the picture you want to add to the gallery. After selecting the open button it will automatically begin uploading the image/video.

This again is an area where Virb completely goes beyond Clover’s 100GB storage limit. Virb offers unlimited storage of all your audio, pictures, and video. They also have support for High-Def video and at this time it’s limited to 512MB in size.
I recently came across several churches and non-profit’s using Clover and initially when I viewed the page I thought something was wrong and left. It seemed strange that the page appeared to load but nothing was displayed, so I went back to the site and waited and eventually flash-site loaded. Most people probably wouldn’t go back and there has been research done by Google and Microsoft that indicates visitors will leave sites that are slow. I did some tests on 5 different Clover sites and each one took 8-12 seconds before the first hint of anything appeared. This along with Clover’s cost is what prompted me to write the comparison. Clover charges an initial $1,000 + $20/month and if you want to change templates/designs, it’s another $200. They make outrageous claims like “Get a $20,000 website for 1/20th the price.” and in their F.A.Q they have this question, “Why’s Clover so inexpensive? Is there a catch?” and their answer is, “It’s funny that whenever something is priced so inexpensively we expect that it’s too good to be true. We have specifically priced Clover for budget-minded people. This means that although we might have been able to price each site a bit higher, we decided to keep the price low enough for real people to afford it. We like to think of it as a luxury car for the price of a coupe.” The truth is you are paying the price of a luxury car and getting a coupe instead. Everything about the website seems to take advantage of those people who don’t know anything about websites but know they need one. I think a fair price would be closer to $50-$100 for the initial cost and then $20/month.
Now, Virb is new to the scene so it wasn’t an option until now (August, 2010), but that has changed and Virb only costs $10/month with no hidden fees or upfront costs. I read Clover’s complete list of features and there wasn’t a single thing on their list that Virb doesn’t do equally as well (In most cases Virb does it far better). The only downside currently to Virb is they don’t have a huge amount of templates available and the majority of their current templates are targeted at photographers, artists, and musicians. Although this may seem limiting, Virb plans to open up their template gallery to submissions so it can grow and expand. It’s free and easy to switch templates so as their template gallery expands, you can change your design as often as you want.
There are so many other great features I didn’t mention like the ability to create multiple blogs, import twitter feeds, sell digital downloads like music, pictures, and videos. There are lots of other features I don’t have time to mention now but needless to say, I believe at this point it would be insane and an irresponsible use of money to use Clover since it offers no advantage over Virb except it’s template gallery appropriate for churches and non-profits is larger. I’ll end with this note: It would take 8 years of paying for Virb to break even with the cost of Clover.
EDIT: In all fairness, one area that Clover does do better currently is providing a mobile version of each website. Virb has stated they are working on making their sites more accessible to mobile devices, it doesn’t have a solution yet. This doesn’t mean your sites are inaccessible, it functions just like any other website on the web, it simply means they don’t have it specifically styled for them. This is hardly a serious issue on the iPad or netbooks, only on small devices because you have to zoom in on the page to navigate and read.
In recent weeks a large number of Media Temple customer have had their Wordpress sites hacked. A simple Twitter search will reveal a majority of the dozens of hacked Wordpress sites were Media Temple customers. There was even a thread on the official Wordpress Forums for Media Temple customers. Many of these users reported they were using the latest version of Wordpress 3.01. At first glance it would appear that it was only affecting Media Temple customers and therefore many wrongly assumed that it must be a security vulnerability with Media Temple’s infrastructure. Irresponsible and uninformed bloggers accused Media Temple of being lax on security and shifting blame.
The Facts
Although I mentioned a simple Twitter search would reveal that the majority hacked Wordpress sites were Media Temple customers, the fact is they weren’t the only ones. This was either purposefully overlooked by many or more than likely it was a irresponsible rush to judgment and laziness.
Several of Media Temple’s customers reported on the Media Temple forums that they were running WordPress 2.9.2 (even 2.3) while others said they were using the latest version. Well guess what? The latest Wordpress 3.01 is about two week old and it’s being reported by Major Security that it is vulnerable to Cross Site Scripting attacks. So all those people who used the latest version and blamed (mt) should be angry at WordPress.
The fact is Media Temple was not to blame for these attacks and they should be praised for their amazing support. With the exception of one (1) security problem they had with FTP passwords a few months back, Media Temple has had the best security and been the most open, honest and proactive hosting company I know of. They wrote a very informative post on their blog describing how these attacks occur, what can be done to prevent them and how to clean them. They also put together some excellent information on security and how to clean an infected Wordpress site on their Wiki. You can also view their Twitter stream and see all the support they were providing to customers in helping them recover from these attacks.
The sad reality though is most of the irresponsible bloggers won’t acknowledge their incorrect, irresponsible and misguided comments. They won’t apologize and they certainly won’t commend Media Temple for their commitment to security and their customers. Yes, I’ve become a loyal customer (and fan) of Media Temple but that’s because no other company I know of provides the same level of service or has the same commitment to it’s customers.
I just finished a week at a Youth for Christ camp at Island Lake. This was my third year and I can’t wait to do it all over again next year. It is hard to find the word to express the brokenness and pain in the lives of so many kids who come to these camps. It is even more difficult to express the love and compassion felt by everyone else from the camp director to the counselors. These camps are very special and God is faithful to work through them to change the lives of so many hurting teens. For me it’s the highlight of my summers in spite of the physical exhaustion I feel by the end of the week. There is nothing more exciting in this world than seeing a young teen whose life is so messed up being transformed by Jesus. Friday as I stood on the shore of the lake a young man named Isaac swam up to me and the following dialog took place:
Isaac: You’re Zach right?
Me: Yes
Isaac: I thought so…guess what?
Me: What?
Isaac: I accepted Jesus into my life.
Me: Really? That’s awesome! It will be the best decision you ever made!
Isaac: I know, everything already feels better. I’m gonna go now…I just wanted to tell you.
I can’t share more details but it’s not uncommon to hear stories of teens who are being physically and sexually abused at home. It’s not uncommon to hear stories of kids who either tried to commit suicide or was considering it. Not everyone is surrenders their life to Christ but everyone comes away changed. I know I certainly do!
Today marks the beginning of a new chapter in my personal blogging life. I am taking the journey from a self-hosted blog to a third-party application hosted elsewhere. There are several reason but primarily it comes down to features, ease-of-use, and performance. Wordpress has become a powerful application and framework for blogging but that often leads to it’s own problems usually related to performance. I chose Tumblr simply because it’s simple and sexy interface and ease-of-use. Although, it does have some really cool features which make it easy to share different types of media such as Youtube videos.